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Ich 666 wrote:Why are you always trying to get the discussion focussed on game development? Thats really the least problem that needs to be solved, when we get into a REAL energy crisis.
Ich 666 wrote:Of course everyone will have to lower their standards, but everyone should have known that the luxury we live in wont last forever.
Black_Stormy wrote:A common reaction to an energy crisis debate is "come on guys, let's fix it" but it's not up to the educated few to fix the problems caused by the dumb bleating masses. There needs to be a universal paradigm shift in order to move to sustainable practices and that's not going to happen. There are still people decking out their cars and rapidly burning way more fuel than necessary. Corporations are still obsessed with growth rather than sustainability. People are still greedy and stupid. The concept of environmental change has to be marketed to these people, they won't make that connection themselves, and no amount of talking about it on a forum is going to have any effect on their narrow worldviews.
Black_Stormy wrote:Why do you continue to make games?
DonPunch wrote:Q - Why don't we just make everything green right now? A - It's too expensive.
amckern wrote:For large transport why not look at coal dust, and convert existing engines to steam powered - think of a steam punk style Mac truck?
Jeeves wrote:nobody has yet proven that the oil supply is finite
Jeeves wrote:I reckon that we won't see anything happen in our lifetime, so games are probably safe for the next couple of decades.
Oil supply is finite because we get it from the earth. The earth is a finite volume, q.e.d. the supply of oil has to be finite as well.Jeeves wrote:I don't believe the hype, nobody has yet proven that the oil supply is finite;
That's pretty vague, care to link? Nobody disproved god made all the oil in the world either, and no one ever can. That doesn't mean we should just squander our reserves because its unclear whether or not god will restock our planet tomorrow.Jeeves wrote:or even conclusively disproved the theory that fossil fuel is produced by some other earth process, though many scientists came down on it like a ton of bricks initially.
I agree we will never know the current status of oil reserves. There could be bubbles left untoched that would supply the world for eons, we could be drilling fumes tomorrow. Or even yesterday. However, there is nothing wrong with finding another source of energy we are sure to not run out in the next 100 years. Wouldn't you agree its better to rely on a form of energy we know is (roughly) infinite than on an energy source most of us agree will run out sooner or later? Besides, if we want to survive as a species we are going to have to rid ourselves of the dependance on things one can only find in the soil of our own planet. Oil would definitely be one of those things.Jeeves wrote:IMO there's too many conflicting stories and unless your in with the money men then your not going to get the truth, I reckon that we won't see anything happen in our lifetime, so games are probably safe for the next couple of decades.
coal dust is just as polluting as coal, which, surprise surprise, is also a finite source of power. Sure, it'll last 100's of years now, but imagine how much shorter itll last if we run out of oil and have to use coal instead. Besides that, coal dust is extremely carcinogenic. As for steam engines, how would steam power help us? We need fossil fuels to create the steam, and there is no engine we know of more efficient in creating movement out of fossil fuels than the one in our cars n boats and planes.amckern wrote:For large transport why not look at coal dust, and convert existing engines to steam powered - think of a steam punk style Mac truck?
Again, how would that solve anything? Sure, its 'bio' oil, but we simply do not have enough earth to generate enough to run all engines that currently run oil. Unless, ofcourse, we choose to starve to death in order to keep our gastanks full.amckern wrote:The other thing we could do is go 100% ethenol - most people now days use a 90/10 mix - india uses a larger mix.
Jeeves wrote:zombie@computer
The wiki page lists some pros and cons about it.
from a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin
Also I think you misunderstand me when i say finite, i don't mean it in a mathematical context.
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