Physics broken in map

[pk_hunter]

So I was making a map of the Large Hadron Collider, and for some reason when I was testing it recently I discovered that some of the particles it was firing (specifically Neutrinos) were actually travelling faster than light.
Now, obviously according to all known physics this is impossible, so I assume it's a bug somewhere.

Can anyone help me with this? Here's a better description of the problem.

If it's not a bug, it means that Einstein's physics model is going to be utterly turned on its head.

[Dives]

A still more glorious dawn awaits. Not a sun-rise, but a galaxy rise. A morning filled with four-hundred billion suns. The rising of the Milky Way.



I seriously hope this isn't a false alarm.

[The Giblets of Jesus]

Quite an interesting story, currently my thoughts linger on the original theory of relativity needing to be slightly modified to accept newer scientific discoveries, but of course it could just be an error.

...That or somebody observed it in a strange way and we're in one of those universes that have strange impossible anomalies.

[zombie@computer]

No theories have to be rewritten. The existence of tachions has been long theorized.

[pk_hunter]

"we're in one of those universes that have strange impossible anomalies."
We are. Quantum particles are fairly widely accepted.

[Jangalomph]

"And of course the consequences can be very serious."

What would the consequences even be of this article? What in this article describes a serious issue?

[pk_hunter]

Einstein theorised that the speed of light is the absolute peak speed anything in our universe can reach. Pretty much all modern physics is based on his theory of relativity. This throws it into question. It's really exciting imo.

Also, I absolutely love the quote from Dr Ereditato in that article.
"we are not claiming things, we want just to be helped by the community in understanding our crazy result - because it is crazy".

I just really wish more of the world had as open-minded an outlook.
Did they immediately believe they were correct? No. They repeated the experiment and pondered over the data for months. Still finding no flaws, they have now published ALL their data and allowed the entire world to scrutinize it because they want to be absolutely sure. They WANT to be proven wrong. This is how the world has to work - confirmation is required on a mass scale before you can start accepting crazy theories.

[The Giblets of Jesus]

It mentions in various sources that the Tachyon particle has just about no mass and so doesn't fall under the same restrictions as other bits of matter (No mass, no infinite mass, nothing slower it down beyond light speed) but how can something not have any mass?

Unless it exists like a photon, which still has a mass, in a higher dimension.

[zombie@computer]

I don't understand why everone is all like "cool, if thats true we can travel back in time and shit".

Hello! There isn't a SINGLE law of physics that disables us from traveling back in time. In all current physics equations you can easily insert negative time values and get a valid result. It doesn't mean we CAN travel back in time, but there are no known laws stopping us. Then again, some people believe that if the earth would rotate backwards time would run backwards as well..

Also, Einsteins' law is based on the fact that no particle can accelerate to a speed faster than light, NOT that nothing can go faster than light. Even Einstein acknowledged the existence of tachyons as a possibility. What would be interesting is, how can a particle go faster than light if it cannot accelerate to a speed faster than light? Obviously it wasn't always going that fast in this experiment.

I'm interested to see how we look back at this in 50 years.

[Shirik]

Any screenshoots?

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Einstein theorised that the speed of light is the absolute peak speed anything in our universe can reach. Pretty much all modern physics is based on his theory of relativity. This throws it into question. It's really exciting imo.

Also, I absolutely love the quote from Dr Ereditato in that article.
"we are not claiming things, we want just to be helped by the community in understanding our crazy result - because it is crazy".

I just really wish more of the world had as open-minded an outlook.
Did they immediately believe they were correct? No. They repeated the experiment and pondered over the data for months. Still finding no flaws, they have now published ALL their data and allowed the entire world to scrutinize it because they want to be absolutely sure. They WANT to be proven wrong. This is how the world has to work - confirmation is required on a mass scale before you can start accepting crazy theories.

this is what I love about science, so much still to learn.. so many unanswered question.. would be a waste to delude my mind with ancient myths and not to try to find some real answers

I don't understand why everone is all like "cool, if thats true we can travel back in time and shit".

Hello! There isn't a SINGLE law of physics that disables us from traveling back in time. In all current physics equations you can easily insert negative time values and get a valid result. It doesn't mean we CAN travel back in time, but there are no known laws stopping us. Then again, some people believe that if the earth would rotate backwards time would run backwards as well..

Also, Einsteins' law is based on the fact that no particle can accelerate to a speed faster than light, NOT that nothing can go faster than light. Even Einstein acknowledged the existence of tachyons as a possibility. What would be interesting is, how can a particle go faster than light if it cannot accelerate to a speed faster than light? Obviously it wasn't always going that fast in this experiment.

I'm interested to see how we look back at this in 50 years.

yeah I thought it was funny when I saw 'teletext' and it said that this discovery made time travel theoretical possible..
I was like.. theoretical it was already possible noobies