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[Mangopork]

Deleting due to misinterpretation.

Mods, delete thread please

[Mangopork]

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[Oakley]

Well it sounds reasonable enough to me.

[KILLA-COW]

Rule Britannia!!

[zombie@computer]

meh, only usa. couldnt care less. Just putting in the law what EA's been doing for 10's of years

[Mangopork]

And when they take away your food, you'll just say "meh, its ok, i'll eat dirt lolz"

[CanMan]

And when they take away your food, you'll just say "meh, its ok, i'll eat dirt lolz"

Yes, because food is copyrighted.

[KILLA-COW]

And when they take away your food, you'll just say "meh, its ok, i'll eat dirt lolz"

Okkkkkaaaaay. Think you're stretching it a bit far there.

[Generalvivi]

If raven stole anything i was working on in my spare time..... Id prob end up working on it at work


Plus , stealing shit is for losers and retards that can't come up with their own ideas .

[Mangopork]

oiy.

[vcool]

Don't give a shit.

Well I certainly don't since I have not created anything amazing.

[Mr. Happy]

Jesus fucking christ, the apathy among my fellow USA'ers is disgusting. How they hell can you guys not take five second out of your day to try adn stop this shit?

Seriously, I'm digusted and dissappointed. Specially by comments like vcool's and Vivi's. What the hell guys, "going to work on it at my job" ?? AND? This is wrong, and if we let the government do shit like this, they will go farther and farther and farther.

If you think this won't affect you, there's and so don't do anything there are two outcomes: 1. your an idiot adn will get stepped on. 2. someone else will.

If you don't think that there are hundreds of companies out there that won't take advantage of this, your either one of the stupidest people in the world, or have simply never left your house, never turned on the TV, never been on the internet, and never had any other kind of contact with society.

Wake the fuck up people, take ten god damn seconds to send a form letter to your representative adn work to stop this shit. It affects all of us, and I don't care if you haven't made "anything good" what if you do later? What if you eventually want to get a job doing this? And what if yuo DO have a job doing this, Mr. Vivi, sounds like fun giving Raven the opportunity to rape you. AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD. If this passes, I'm taking everyone USA'ers on here's portfolio's and stealing it, because you were all too stupid to protect yourselves.

And no Z@C, once again, your idiocy and apathy has blinded you to the ramifications. If you, or anyone else in the world makes something, than people in the USA can take it, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Jesus fucking christ, maybe it really is time to leave this shit hole country.

[RC-1290]

This can't be possible..

[Meotwister]

Let's first calm down...

okay.

now before I do anything for any side of an issue, I look at both sides and make sure I'm gettin the whole correct story so that I don't later regret not doing good research.

I've read about this 'orphaned works' thing for a couple of weeks and most of the time its people afraid someone can find their image and do a google search, not find anything, and claim it was orphaned. Which from what I've read is NOT the case. I believe you have to have extensive documentation of how you went about trying to find the original artist in the first place.

at any rate this is an interesting read on the matter. Here

Frankly, I'm disgusted at how a lot of people are swept up in causes against the government or big business so easily without even checking what is going on exactly from an objective source.

Let me say though, I'm not saying I'm supporting this bill either just that people need to take a closer look at things and not fly off the handle every time they think they seem government/business oppression. Seems like people are just trying to find a revolution in the everyday.

*edit* I just read the rebuttal on that illustrators website to the 6 misconceptions about the Orphan works bill I just posted.. one thing I noticed about it is.. they admit they don't even know what the current Orphan works bill has in it. They're guessing it'll be basically the same as the one from 2006 but they dont know for sure. So at the moment we don't have any bill to kill because one, the bill hasn't even been brought out yet and two, we don't even know whats in this new bill to oppose what it says.

I suggest people not be opposed to anything yet and wait till the bill comes out and then we can decide one way or the other. I did read they assume the bill will be shoved through Congress by mid-May because this is an election year and still I think we should wait till we know what it is before we oppose it.

Sounds like the only problem is that there isn't enough of a deterrent for business to purposely not find you. If there was a similar fine or penalty like the current statutory damages penalty of like $150, 000 then no one would really need to worry because businesses wouldn't risk purposely not finding you.

Y'know if it's on DeviantArt or your website or somethin it's pretty much impossible for them to say they couldn't find you. Even if this does pass in it's previous 'bad' form, all we as artists would need to start doing is start labeling our artwork when we post it randomly in the internet.

[irt3hnubpie]

Canada has plenty of room, we have better laws and regulations, we're socialist, in a manner, and it works! So we don't have to bother with corporate capitalist pigs running our government. Anyways, I digress. But yeah, this virtually means we have no say over things we created! The United States of America is becoming more and more like something out of an Orwell novel. I hope to God the Canadian House of Commons passes a bill which rejects this for Canadian citizens; if it effects us.